The cover letter also details the unethical behavior of the Journal Nature in leaking confidential information and how this had a detrimental impact on the study.
Below is the letter from Dr. Ketchum to The Journal Nature:
I am the corresponding author for the above mentioned
manuscript. We (the authors of this manuscript) are extremely unhappy with the
ethics of the reviewers chosen by Nature.
Please consider this letter as a formal appeal of your process on the previous manuscript,
2011-09-11671 and 2011-09-11671A-Z. We are resubmitting a revised manuscript in
an effort to vindicate our reputations and also to give Nature a chance to rectify the scientific bias and the unethical
behavior exhibited by the previous reviewers by giving our manuscript a fair
chance at publication. Our manuscript and our reputations were tarnished by the
reviewers as follows:
- Release to the public of the first peer review as well as the fact that our manuscript was at Nature. One of the reviewers leaked the original peer review to a “celebrity” that is involved with our subject and it was put on the internet. Since it has not been published in Nature, this “celebrity” is now calling our study a “fake” on Twitter and elsewhere. This is highly damaging to our careers and never should have happened. The link states the source of the information as being one of the reviewers. (http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/mm-sasquatch-dna-project/)
- Reviewers accused our genomes of having contamination even though we went to great lengths to explain how the samples were extracted and screened to rule out contamination. To tell us, as scientists, especially those of us that are forensic scientists, that our samples are contaminated can be likened to accusing us of hoaxing a scientific study or perjuring ourselves in court. As forensic scientists that testify in court, this can be highly damaging and has caused all of the authors tremendous worry and concern. Since we were not given a chance to defend ourselves on the second peer review and our manuscript refused because of these accusations (since all other revisions were verbiage and extremely minor), we contacted Illumina (manufacturers of the HiSeq 2000 next generation sequencing platform that we used to sequence the genomes) in an effort to prove, once and for all, that the three genomes were single source and not contaminated. We spoke with two supervisors specializing in technical support for next generation sequencing. We asked them if it was possible to prove if there was contamination in a genome or not. They immediately answered “yes”! They told us that the average Q30 score for a genome was 85, but if there was contamination, which would cause the divergent sequences to compete against one another, that a contaminated sample would have a Q30 score of only 40 to 50. A pure, single source sample would have a Q30 score of about 85. When we checked our Q30 scores for the first read, our three genomes had Q30 scores of 92, 88 and 89 respectively. The second read was a little lower 88, 84.25 and 83.66 but still very close to the average of 85. The Q30 is the percent of the reads that have the statistical probability greater than 1:1000 of being correctly sequenced. Therefore, with the help of the scientists at Illumina, it was determined that not only were the sequences from a single source, but the quality of the sequences were far above the average genome sequenced using their platform. I can furnish contact information if you desire it. We attribute the high quality of the genomes to the stringent extraction procedures utilized whereby the DNA was repeatedly purified. This gave us greater than 30X coverage of the three genomes. Furthermore, it supported our original findings of human mitochondrial DNA since the whole genomes yielded human mitochondrial DNA consistent with the original individual mtDNA genome sequencing. The nuDNA findings were also supported in that there was novel primate sequence in the nuDNA. So, the original submission was indeed supported by the next generation sequencing that we included in the revised submission. The three genomes aligned with one another also supporting that all three genomes came from the same species and they were NOT contaminated. Most importantly, the Q30 scores absolutely disproved the reviewers’ assumption that the whole genomes were a mixture of human with animal DNA contaminants. The summary of the next generation sequencing generated by the Illumina HiSeq 2000 sequencer is now furnished as Supplementary Data 7 to support this discussion that is now included in our manuscript, Lines 544-558.
- The peer reviewers failed to even read the manuscript because we were asked for data or criticized for not having data that was already in the manuscript or supplementary information.
Because of the ethical problems listed above, our group is
therefore re-submitting this revised manuscript having addressed all of the
concerns raised by the reviewers. We are supplying the authors’ response to
each concern the reviewers had as proof of the bias and in defense of the
manuscript. We have corrected all of the
verbiage concerns and added the definitive proof that the genomes are not
contaminated. We are also available for questions and any further requested
revision. We also added a conclusion concerning human hybridization likened to
Neanderthal and Denisovan hybridization to satisfy Reviewer 3. If it is preferred that the data speak for
itself without theory, we will gladly remove the added conclusion.
We want our findings published in Nature since it is perhaps the best journal published and our
manuscript is being called the largest scientific find in the last 100 years.
If it was not a Nature worthy
manuscript, it would not have been given a second chance with revision,
revision that we completed beyond what was asked of us. Besides fair review, we
are asking for expedient treatment of our groundbreaking discovery since we
have provided more proof of existence of these hominins than any manuscripts
describing other novel species to date.
We also have other scientific groups that are headed by “famous”
scientists still trying to beat us to publication even though we have by far
the most data. We know our manuscript is worthy of publication because we have
had private peer review that was positive as well as your Reviewer #1. We just hope Nature is brave enough to do what we all know is right and that is publishing
this manuscript. We would also note that a new monkey was found in Africa and
published recently (PLOS One: Lesula paper) with only 6.8Kb of sequence. We have 20 samples with 16.5 Kb of mtDNA and
10 more with partial sequence but enough to obtain haplotypes with most of them
coming from non-human hair yielding human sequence. This includes hair from 26,
the first whole genome sample. We have three whole genomes comprising millions
of reads and greater than 30X coverage.
We have 2.7 million bases aligned to human chromosome 11 that are novel
primate which is no small feat considering the sequence is novel and therefore
difficult to align. That is not counting
all of the other disciplines involved in our manuscript including forensic hair
analysis, histopathology, forensics and electron microscopy. It has been stated that extraordinary claims
require extraordinary proof. We have
provided more than enough extraordinary proof.
We even have high definition video of the donor of sample 37 sleeping in
the forest and breathing at 6 breaths per minute (Supplementary Video 1). This sample was part of a field research
study overseen by a PhD in wildlife biology so we are certain of the source of
this sample and the video attached to it. We have a full facial video of her
also that will be released after the paper publishes. I could arrange for the
Editorial board to view it if they so desire and perhaps a copyright
arrangement could be reached so that one frame could be used for the cover of
the journal. The face is stunning.
We understand our subject is controversial; however
solid scientific methods were used in this study. We are also attaching to this letter an
overview of the laboratories utilized in the study to show how the data was
produced using blind studies and reproduced and verified by other laboratories
(see below).
If there is still any doubt concerning the existence
of these hominins, we are also willing to allow a representative from Nature to travel here and see these individuals
personally, preferably during a full moon to increase lighting since they are
primarily nocturnal. Though there is
never 100% guarantee that a sighting will occur, if a few (about 3) days are
allowed, we predict that the chances of seeing one of these hominins approach
99%. So far, everyone that we have
invited has had an experience, including myself and some of the
co-authors. Seeing is believing and that
is why we offer this opportunity. We
will do whatever is necessary to support our manuscript.
Thank you in advance for fair unbiased treatment of our
manuscript and for accepting it in its revised format.
Kind regards,
Dr. Melba S. Ketchum
Corresponding author
Below is the initial peer review and Dr. Ketchums Responses:
Author Responses to Referees
Referee #1 (Remarks to
the Author):
I must state at the outset that I am not a geneticist, and hence not fully qualified to evaluate the DNA data in proper critical fashion. Bottom line: there is obviously the backbone here of a paper that includes a lot of interesting data, but it needs a lot of work before it can be accepted.
I must state at the outset that I am not a geneticist, and hence not fully qualified to evaluate the DNA data in proper critical fashion. Bottom line: there is obviously the backbone here of a paper that includes a lot of interesting data, but it needs a lot of work before it can be accepted.
1.
My main advice (discussed further below): include better graphics (especially a
similarity tree/distance tree/phylogram/cladogram of some sort).
Authors’ Response:
We have added 9 phylogenetic trees and added more data in the form of whole
genome sequencing.
2.
Remove the problematic conclusions on taxonomic status and the unnecessary
section on recent hominin discoveries, and tidy up the nomenclature and
wording.
--
Discussion of fossil species is probably irrelevant
The
manuscript opens with a section on how recently discovered fossil hominins have
changed our views on the hominin diversity of the recent past. While it seems
logical to mention these taxa in passing at least somewhere in the manuscript,
I think it's a bad idea to start the article off with a discussion of these
forms - is this really the area of investigation that most requires review when
writing about the possible existence of sasquatch? I would say no. The authors are meant to be addressing the
possible existence and identity of an extant population, not adding to the
roster of fossil forms. In other words, the discussion of Neanderthals,
Denisovans and so on seems like unnecessary padding. There are some basic mistakes concerning
terminology and the use of binomials (e.g., the name _Homo floresiensis_ is
incorrectly written with capital first letter on the species name).
Neanderthals do not have the name they do "because of their skeletal
morphology" (rather, they are distinguished by their skeletal morphology).
Authors’Response: We removed the taxonomic recommendation. Additionally we removed the recent hominin
discoveries (Neanderthal and Denisovan).
3.
It would seem far more appropriate so far as I can see to begin with a
discussion of the controversy surrounding the purported existence of 'mystery
hominoids', and to perhaps allude to some of the other technical studies that
have claimed to find evidence for the existence of these alleged creatures.
Authors’ Response: The discussion of the controversy surrounding
the existence of these hominins was moved to the introduction and expounded on,
including photos and video. References were added from other scientific papers
and books published addressing the existence or the discussion of the existence
of these hominins.
4.-- Demonstrate with better clarity what the DNA samples represent
It is stated in the discussion of the collected DNA samples that those "not consistent with _Homo sapiens sapiens_" were then evaluated further. I feel the authors must elaborate on what it was that made it clear that the samples were not part of _H. s. sapiens_ - the normal graphic way of representing this is, of course, a gene tree, distance tree or cladogram of some sort. If the authors are saying that the samples are from a hominid and hominin, but come from a taxon outside of _H. s. sapiens_, they need to state it more clearly and provide better evidence and clearer graphics. Any diagram should also make it clear that other mammals (a useful list is included in the manuscript) were definitely out-groups relative to the group that includes the 'mystery' samples and those of definite hominins.
Authors’Response: We clarified and removed the verbiage stating
"not consistent with _Homo sapiens sapiens_". We have added 6 mitochondrial phylogenetic
trees which clearly show the samples had modern human maternal origins and were
generated via conventional sequencing as well as phylogenetic trees extracted
from next generation whole genome sequences.
We provide more evidence by sequencing 3 whole genomes at the University
of Texas core lab and using a subsample
of extracted reads. The reads were
assembled to create a consensus sequence using the human chromosome 11 as a reference. These concatemers (supercontigs) were used to
find sequence homologs and generate 3 phylogenetic trees, one for each whole
genome sequenced.
5. -- Terminology seems odd and needs changing
The terminology used throughout this manuscript, and the conclusions the authors reach, seem inappropriate in view of the evidence. Indeed, the title tells us that evidence for a 'new species' is presented, yet the authors actually end up naming a new 'subspecies'. I am definitely of the opinion that the naming of a new taxon seems inappropriate at this stage (it is likely to be about as accepted as Meldrum's suggested ichnotaxonomic name _Anthropoidipes ameriborealis_), and I would also add that the chosen name ('_Homo sapiens feralis_') is odd and highly problematic (use google to see what I mean). It is stated throughout the ms that the animal is of hybrid origin. If this is so, it is highly debatable as to whether or not taxonomic novelty is warranted.
5. -- Terminology seems odd and needs changing
The terminology used throughout this manuscript, and the conclusions the authors reach, seem inappropriate in view of the evidence. Indeed, the title tells us that evidence for a 'new species' is presented, yet the authors actually end up naming a new 'subspecies'. I am definitely of the opinion that the naming of a new taxon seems inappropriate at this stage (it is likely to be about as accepted as Meldrum's suggested ichnotaxonomic name _Anthropoidipes ameriborealis_), and I would also add that the chosen name ('_Homo sapiens feralis_') is odd and highly problematic (use google to see what I mean). It is stated throughout the ms that the animal is of hybrid origin. If this is so, it is highly debatable as to whether or not taxonomic novelty is warranted.
Authors’Response: We have re-written and re-arranged the
manuscript to use better terminology and also have removed any taxonomic
references other than to call the hominins Sasquatch.
6. I would like to know exactly what is meant by those statements noting that the "paternal lineage [is] completely unknown", as the authors seems to be introducing a new layer of mystery to their conclusions. It seems radical enough that they are positing a hybrid origin for this putative animal, but are they also invoking the existence of an additional animal that was involved in the proposed hybridisation event? This all seems very peculiar and I am not convinced that the evidence presented in this manuscript explains it adequately.
Authors’Response: By sequencing 3 whole genomes that failed to
align with any animal or hominin found in NCBI, there is no other conclusion
other than that the paternal nuclear DNA origins are unknown. Previous data suggested that novel sequences
and high failure rate were found in the nuclear DNA sequencing and STR testing.,
The addition of the three genomes further supports our initial findings. The nuDNA and
mtDNA origins of the Sasquatch are discordant, with mtDNA indicating
human maternal lineage. Analysis of the 3 next
generation whole genome sequences and analysis of preliminary phylogeny trees
from the Sasquatch indicate that these individuals possesses an anomalous
mosaic pattern of nuclear DNA comprising sequences that are distantly related
to primates interspersed with sequences that are closely homologous to humans.
7.
I would also suggest that the phrase "unknown morphology of the hair"
is inappropriate: rather, the authors are reporting a morphology that is novel.
Authors’
Response: We changed
the phrase "unknown morphology of the hair" to “microscopic morphology of hairs classified as “novel” and
“novel hairs”.
8. All in all, this manuscript seems to report the discovery of a novel North American hominin lineage as determined by DNA analysis (so far as I can tell, the substantial discussion of that data is appropriate and does consider most relevant factors/avenues of investigation). This is, obviously, potentially, a significant, Nature-worthy discovery. But it is marred by poor choice of presentation (that is, the absence of a tree that immediately conveys the position of the samples to those of other taxa/populations), unnecessary discussion of fossil forms, and inappropriate, confusing and rather naive proposals concerning nomenclature and the alleged hybrid origin of the alleged animal. I would definitely like to see this manuscript 'salvaged', but it would need a thorough revision and re-organisation. I wish the authors the best of luck in their continuing efforts.
Authors’ Response: We re-organized and revised the manuscript and added extra data to support our original findings.
8. All in all, this manuscript seems to report the discovery of a novel North American hominin lineage as determined by DNA analysis (so far as I can tell, the substantial discussion of that data is appropriate and does consider most relevant factors/avenues of investigation). This is, obviously, potentially, a significant, Nature-worthy discovery. But it is marred by poor choice of presentation (that is, the absence of a tree that immediately conveys the position of the samples to those of other taxa/populations), unnecessary discussion of fossil forms, and inappropriate, confusing and rather naive proposals concerning nomenclature and the alleged hybrid origin of the alleged animal. I would definitely like to see this manuscript 'salvaged', but it would need a thorough revision and re-organisation. I wish the authors the best of luck in their continuing efforts.
Authors’ Response: We re-organized and revised the manuscript and added extra data to support our original findings.
Referee #2 (Remarks to
the Author):
The authors analyse some biology samples (mainly hairs) putatively belonging to the Big Foot; they analyse the hair microscopica structre, the mtDNA, forensic STRs markers and some few nuclear genes -including the MC1R- and conclude the results indicate the existence of a previously unknown human species, which they call Homo sapiens feralis. I am not going to go into the specific details of the results, which are quite confusing and methodologically debatable, but will explain what the average molecular biologists would do in two different scenarios related to the problem presented in this work.
1. Identify a biological sample of unknown specific origin, say, hairs, or coprolites or blood stains. This approach is widely used in zoology, for instance, to distinguish between wolf and dog after an attack to a sheep herd. Usually the people uses universal primers to amplify a diagnostic DNA fragment that could help in the identification of numerous species. 16S is probably the most widely used, although in specific situations and for trying to find out the precise match, you may want to design additional tests on cytb, nuclear SNPs, complete mtDNA, etc. This has not been done here; the use of human primers will amplify human mtDNA, as has been the case. Moreover, the fragmentary mtDNA data does not support any unknown hominin lineage, because the haplotype/haplogroup attribution fits well in what is already known of the modern human mtDNA phylogeny.
The authors analyse some biology samples (mainly hairs) putatively belonging to the Big Foot; they analyse the hair microscopica structre, the mtDNA, forensic STRs markers and some few nuclear genes -including the MC1R- and conclude the results indicate the existence of a previously unknown human species, which they call Homo sapiens feralis. I am not going to go into the specific details of the results, which are quite confusing and methodologically debatable, but will explain what the average molecular biologists would do in two different scenarios related to the problem presented in this work.
1. Identify a biological sample of unknown specific origin, say, hairs, or coprolites or blood stains. This approach is widely used in zoology, for instance, to distinguish between wolf and dog after an attack to a sheep herd. Usually the people uses universal primers to amplify a diagnostic DNA fragment that could help in the identification of numerous species. 16S is probably the most widely used, although in specific situations and for trying to find out the precise match, you may want to design additional tests on cytb, nuclear SNPs, complete mtDNA, etc. This has not been done here; the use of human primers will amplify human mtDNA, as has been the case. Moreover, the fragmentary mtDNA data does not support any unknown hominin lineage, because the haplotype/haplogroup attribution fits well in what is already known of the modern human mtDNA phylogeny.
Authors’Response: The evidence samples were screened with not
only published cytochrome b primers utilized for species identification but
also THR/DHL which are universal mammalian primers in the literature utilized
across HV1 for species identification.
This is stated in the manuscript however, we have made it more
prominent. We also had previously
sequenced a number of whole mitochondrial genomes which are in the
manuscript. We have increased that
number. The initial mtDNA screening of
the samples with the universal primers yielding only human results. These
findings are consistent with previous attempts by other labs and scientists to
validate the existence of Sasquatch through mtDNA which we have documented in
the Discussion. There was no DNA of any
other species in the mtDNA in any of the samples utilized in this study. The
whole mitochondrial genomes were consistent with modern human as were the
samples that yielded enough mitochondrial sequence to assign a haplotype but
not a whole mtDNA genome. Even the
samples with very little DNA (not enough to achieve a haplotype) were screened
with a short HV2 sequence and gave only human sequence. This mtDNA alone did
not support an unknown hominin, however the same extractions, when sequenced on
various nuclear loci and amplified with PowerPlex 16, yielded unexpected and
aberrant results with some loci yielding
normal human sequence along with novel sequences not found in genetic
depositories. To further support our findings, we have
sequenced 3 next generation whole genomes from which 3 mitochondrial DNA
sequences were extracted and were homologous with human and the previous
sequencing. The chromosomal sequences
were discordant and novel, supporting the original findings.
2) Another scenario. We want to prove that the specimen we are studying is an undescribed, new species. Of course the definition of what a species would look like genetically is a tricky question (see for instance, the Denisovans), but you would be expected to generate a huge amount of genomic data (if possible, the complete genome), construct phylogenetic trees and show that your specimen represents a deep, undescribed clade in the current phylogeny. Even so, some might argue that genetic divergence is not equivalent to species difference, but at least you would have a good point to support your claims. This has not been done here, and the analysis of three random nuclear genes cannot be used for the purpose of defining a new species.
2) Another scenario. We want to prove that the specimen we are studying is an undescribed, new species. Of course the definition of what a species would look like genetically is a tricky question (see for instance, the Denisovans), but you would be expected to generate a huge amount of genomic data (if possible, the complete genome), construct phylogenetic trees and show that your specimen represents a deep, undescribed clade in the current phylogeny. Even so, some might argue that genetic divergence is not equivalent to species difference, but at least you would have a good point to support your claims. This has not been done here, and the analysis of three random nuclear genes cannot be used for the purpose of defining a new species.
In
short, the conclusions are not supported by the methodology. I would suggest
the authors to generate complete mtDNA genomes and, if possible, suficient
nuclear data, even from shotgun approaches, and build phylogenetic trees with
all possible mammal mtDNA genomes and nuclear data available at genbank.
Authors’ Response: We added more data to the manuscript by
sequencing 3 whole genomes using next generation sequencing. Previous data suggested that novel sequences
and high failure rate were found in the nuclear DNA sequencing and STR testing.
The addition of the three genomes further supports our initial findings. The nuDNA and
mtDNA origins of the Sasquatch are still discordant, with mtDNA
indicating human maternal lineage. Analysis
of the 3 next generation whole genome sequences and analysis of preliminary
phylogeny trees from the Sasquatch indicate that these individuals possesses an
anomalous mosaic pattern of nuclear DNA comprising sequences that are distantly
related to primates interspersed with sequences that are closely homologous to
humans.
Referee #3
(Remarks to the Author) I believe
that among the most important abilities defining a real scientist is his/hers
ability to stay open-minded and accept that the world may be radically
different from common believes as long as such radical claims are supported by
sufficient hard scientific evidence. Such a radical claim is presented by
Ketchum et al. that basically propose the existence of new contemporary
sub-species of homo in North America termed Homo sapiens feralis. The claim is
based on morphological and DNA based analyses of samples such as hair and bark
shavings, tissue, toenail, saliva, and blood samples taken by various people in
areas where unusual bipedal hominin like creature has been visually observed.
Based on these analyses the authors claim to have found evidence of a new
contemporary hominin with unique hair, strange, nuDNA, and human mtDNA. An
exceptional claim such as this demands for exceptional convincing evidence -
something the authors do not have:
1. First the data does not make
logical sense. Mitochondrial DNA genomes being identical to that of
contemporary humans can only be explained be relative recent interbreeding
between this new hominin and woman of Caucasian descent. Did such interbreeding
go back many thousands of years one will expect differences to modern mtDNA
genomes. The mtDNA results are hardly explainable unless one believe that
American woman of Caucasian descent (within the last 200-300 years as its
America) runs around in the forest having sex with a undiscovered hominin and
leavening the baby to their care take of the new hominin (as the rest of us
have not heard about such hybrid babies yet the baby must be send of). It is
also sticking that the entire mtDNA lineages of this new hominin is poorly
human. One would expect at least some mtDNA genomes coming out as being
accordance with this being a new hominin or if nothing els some of the mtDNA
being Native American (everything being equal they have been in America more
than 10,00 0 years).
Authors’
Response: We now have
two samples that did yield American Indian haplotypes. These were late arriving samples and were
added to the manuscript. As far as when
this species arrived in the United States, we do not know, however due to H
haplotypes in their mitochondrial DNA, the age of these hominins is less than
15,000 years. However, they could have
arrived in the United States before Native American peoples according to the
Solutrean Theory now added as a reference in this manuscript. As far as the mitochondrial DNA being
homologous to human, we used next generation whole genome sequencing on three
samples. The mitochondrial DNA sequences
were extracted from the genomes and all three were consistent with the same
human mtDNA sequence previously sequenced in the beginning of our study. The nuDNA however, was a mosaic of human
sequence interspersed with novel sequence related to primate lineage. This supports the previous findings reported
in the original manuscript.
2. Secondly, PCR based methods and
methods used for SNP detection by the authors are known to be highly unreliable
when applied to minor amounts of degraded DNA (I know that personally for the
SNP detection approach and simple PCR). This is especially the case for nuDNA
templates that are more prone to be affected by damage than those of mtDNA (due
to copy number differences). In fact copy number differences can very well
explain the DNA findings i.e. the specimens are human in origin, why the
authors amplify mtDNA genomes marching contemporary Caucasians. The nuDNA ,
however, is too poor quality for amplifying the attempted sequence length and
creating PCR artifacts. It makes good sense even for the hair sharft samples
that by nature has degraded DNA (even when taken "fresh") . I am
sorry but this appears to be a much more straightforward scenario than having a
previously undetected (by science) hominin sub-species running around in the
forest mating with Caucasian woman. I am by no means convinced that this has
anything to do with a new hominin subspecies. To make a compelling case I need
seeing mtDNA genomes and large numbers of nuDNA sequences that points in
direction of a new hominin species i.e. ape or human like without being
identical to know species.
Authors’
Response: We have now
included Figures 7 and 13 that show the quality of the DNA on yield gels. There was little to no smearing and the DNA
was pristine. This supports the fact
that the DNA was not degraded enough to mar the results. We sequenced 30 mitochondrial whole and
partial genomes and they were all homologous with modern human mtDNA. We also sequenced several nuclear loci from
the same extractions which encompassed a number of long sequences up to 900
bases. It is difficult to amplify and
sequence long amplicons with degraded DNA.
In order to ascertain if the novel nuclear DNA was an anomaly, we used
next generation sequencing to generate 3 whole genomes to determine if the
nuclear DNA was indeed novel. If the DNA
was badly degraded, the sequencing of whole genomes would have been
impossible. The 3 extractions utilized
for next generation whole genome sequencing passed all quality controls in our
laboratory and the university core laboratory prior to sequencing. The libraries
generated from these samples also passed stringent quality control measures in
the core laboratory prior to the next generation sequencing. If the libraries had not passed QC, the
sequencing would not have been performed. We have furnished 9 phylogenetic
trees (mitochondrial and nuclear) to support the results of this study.
3. I'm not an expert on hair
morphology but I expect that identification mistakes are made.
Authors’
Response: The hair
expert that examined the hair is a forensic trace evidence supervisor in a
large forensic laboratory. He performs
hair analysis and testifies about his findings in court on a daily basis. He also testifies concerning and examines
hair from many species of animals as well as human. Furthermore, he had a wide collection of
animal hair standards with which to compare these hair samples utilized in this
manuscript.
Referee #4 (Remarks to
the Author):
The authors seek to identify the species of 130 unknown, though purportedly hominin, hair and tissue samples. The samples are subjected to multiple forensic and genetic tests, including hair analysis, mitochondrial and nuclear genome sequencing and electron microscopy. They postulate that, while the mitochondrial genomes of all tested samples are conclusively human, discrepancies in Y-chromosome STR and amelogenin amplification, lack of sequence homology to known species, as well as structural abnormalities in DNA viewed by electron microscopy are indicative of an unusual hominin source. They identify this source as a new species, which they call Homo sapiens feralis.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. At no point do the authors provide adequate evidence to support their outrageous claims. The paper suffers from a myriad of faults, some of the most egregious being:
The authors seek to identify the species of 130 unknown, though purportedly hominin, hair and tissue samples. The samples are subjected to multiple forensic and genetic tests, including hair analysis, mitochondrial and nuclear genome sequencing and electron microscopy. They postulate that, while the mitochondrial genomes of all tested samples are conclusively human, discrepancies in Y-chromosome STR and amelogenin amplification, lack of sequence homology to known species, as well as structural abnormalities in DNA viewed by electron microscopy are indicative of an unusual hominin source. They identify this source as a new species, which they call Homo sapiens feralis.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. At no point do the authors provide adequate evidence to support their outrageous claims. The paper suffers from a myriad of faults, some of the most egregious being:
1. Results are not documented in any adequate detail. For example, the DNA sequences determined are not given, rendering any coherent understanding of the results impossible.
Authors’ Response: Sequences not shown in mutation reports have
been added to the Supplemental Data. Mutation reports are now added to the
manuscript in the Supplemental Data allowing transparency of sequences
previously reported as well as new sequencing that has been added.
2.
Failures in tests such as SNP analysis, amplification and electrophoresis are
taken as evidence for differentiation, when they are likely explained by DNA
degradation or contamination. In one instance the authors attempt to replicate
DNA degradation by leaving a blood sample at room temperature for 4 days and
using the sample as a positive control in further testing. They fail to assess
the extent of degradation quantitatively, making this positive control
uninformative.
Authors’ Response: We have added Figure 13
to show the level of degradation of the human control sample in comparison with
some of the Sasquatch samples in the study. We have added 3 whole genomes that were
successfully sequenced using next generation sequencing technology. These genomes supported our previous data and
were novel. Furthermore, we have added
photos of the raw extracted DNA on agarose to support the quality of the
DNA.
3.
When an unknown DNA sequence is amplified from a sample this is taken as
evidence that it comes from the purported unknown hominin when in fact
mispriming from DNA of an unknown microorganism is a much more plausible
scenario.
Authors’Response: We used next generation sequencing to
sequence three unique whole genomes. The
findings from these genomes support our previous findings. These samples were high quality and yielded
outstanding genomes. The quality control
prior to sequencing ruled out any large degree of bacterial contamination. We also provided new Figures 7, 8 and 13 to
address any levels of degradation and contamination. Figure 13 and 8 as well as
the histopathology report on Sample 26 which was added intentionally to show
that that sample 26, which was one of the whole genomes sequenced, was neither
degraded nor had a high concentration of bacteria. Figure
7 was a yield gel showing some of the DNA utilized in this study. Note that the samples are not smeared.
4.
Genetic differentiation based on electron microscopy is improbable. On this
scale, one cannot distinguish the differences between any two species. The
observed structural differences, if legitimate, are at best indicative of DNA
damage.
Authors’Response: The
electron microscopy was not intended to provide species identification but was
included as supporting evidence for the unusual behavior of the amplified
DNA. We have further addressed this in
the revised manuscript.
5. There is a minimum of statistical analysis.
One would like to see, for instance, a phylogeny based on the mitochondrial
genome or HVI regions, or even the pair-wise distances between the samples and
other humans.
Authors’Response: We have provided six mtDNA phylogenetic trees
and three nuclear phylogenetic trees derived from the 3 whole genomes sequenced
with next generation sequencing and have shown the pair-wise distances.
6. The authors do not follow the proper protocol for naming a new species.
Authors’Response: We have removed any taxonomic references and
have chosen to call the hominins Sasquatch.
Now I know what bigfoot is screaming about.
ReplyDeleteWas the full face video Dr. Ketchum referred to ever released?
ReplyDeleteP.S. I agree with Old Man!